4 Feb
2005
4 Feb
'05
3:56 p.m.
--- Serge Marelli <serge_marelli(a)yahoo.fr> a écrit :
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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:52:59 +0100 (CET)
De: Serge Marelli <serge_marelli(a)yahoo.fr>
Objet: RE: Problèmes - http://www.utopolis.lu/
À: Edward Berger <edward.berger(a)bisnet.be>
CC: webmaster(a)utopolis.com, LiLux-Info
<info(a)linux.lu>
Hello again,
FYI : I tried it
- on four different computers
- at three different locations (different cities,
different providers, same country)
- under both Linux, Windows 2000 and Windows XP
- with different browsers (Firefox 1.0, MSIE 6,
Mozilla (old) and Lynx)
I just now retried it from home... and I think I
know where your problem lies...
From my current PC, when I use MSIE I now can see
something.
HOWEVER, when I use any other browser I can't see
your website.
I'd say you (or the developers of this site) do have
a problem with recognised standard and very common
browsers.
yours
S.Marelli
--- Edward Berger <edward.berger(a)bisnet.be> a écrit
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Maybe you should check the cache settings on your
browser?
I checked again but Utopolis.fr and Utopolis.lu
are
running fine.
Best Regards
Edward
B.I.S. NV
Tel : 32 (0)3 239 8489
Fax: 32 (0)3 239 8490
Mobile: 32 (0)475 433 945
-----Original Message-----
From: Serge Marelli
[mailto:serge_marelli@yahoo.fr]
Sent: vrijdag 4 februari 2005 12:19
To: Edward Berger
Cc: webmaster(a)utopolis.com
Subject: RE: Problèmes - http://www.utopolis.lu/
From what I can see (from Luxembourg), it's still
down.
--- Edward Berger <edward.berger(a)bisnet.be> a
écrit :
in
I checked immediately but everything is running
smoothly.
Thanks for letting us know,
Best regards,
Edward
B.I.S. NV
Tel : 32 (0)3 239 8489
Fax: 32 (0)3 239 8490
Mobile: 32 (0)475 433 945
-----Original Message-----
From: Serge Marelli
[mailto:serge_marelli@yahoo.fr]
> Sent: donderdag 3 februari 2005 17:59
> To: webmaster(a)utopolis.com
> Cc: support(a)bisnet.be
> Subject: Problèmes - http://www.utopolis.lu/
>
> On a le message suivant...
>
> "The site has been stopped because of an error > the
> application!
>
> We apologize for the inconvenience. Please
contact
> support(a)bisnet.be so that we can solve this
issue
immediately. Thank you."
domage
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Le vin est une des boissons la plus complexe. Il
contient entre 8 et
14% d'alcool, plusieurs acides minéraux et
organiques, du glycérol, du
sucre, des polyphénols, de nombreux composés
aromatiques, des acides
aminés, des sels, des oligo-éléments en
proportions
> très variées mais
> toujours réduites. Le plus important composant vin est
l'eau pour
85 à 90% de son volume. Dans tout amateur de vin
il
y a donc un buveur
d'eau qui s'ignore !
(Inconnu)
- Serge Marelli
serge_marelli(a)yahoo.fr
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Le vin est une
des boissons la plus complexe. Il
contient entre 8 et
14% d'alcool, plusieurs acides minéraux et
organiques, du glycérol, du
sucre, des polyphénols, de nombreux composés
aromatiques, des acides
aminés, des sels, des oligo-éléments en
proportions
très variées mais
toujours réduites. Le plus important composant du
vin est l'eau pour
85 à 90% de son volume. Dans tout amateur de vin
il
y a donc un buveur
d'eau qui s'ignore !
(Inconnu)
- Serge
Marelli
serge_marelli(a)yahoo.fr
-
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de stockage pour vos
mails !
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Le vin est une des boissons la plus complexe. Il
contient entre 8 et
14% d'alcool, plusieurs acides minéraux et
organiques, du glycérol, du
sucre, des polyphénols, de nombreux composés
aromatiques, des acides
aminés, des sels, des oligo-éléments en proportions
très variées mais
toujours réduites. Le plus important composant du
vin est l'eau pour
85 à 90% de son volume. Dans tout amateur de vin il
y a donc un buveur
d'eau qui s'ignore !
(Inconnu)
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Le vin est une des boissons la plus complexe. Il contient entre 8 et
14% d'alcool, plusieurs acides minéraux et organiques, du glycérol, du
sucre, des polyphénols, de nombreux composés aromatiques, des acides
aminés, des sels, des oligo-éléments en proportions très variées mais
toujours réduites. Le plus important composant du vin est l'eau pour
85 à 90% de son volume. Dans tout amateur de vin il y a donc un buveur
d'eau qui s'ignore !
(Inconnu)
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4 Feb
4 Feb
4:02 p.m.
Serge Marelli wrote:
>FYI : I tried it
> - on four different computers
> - at three different locations (different cities,
>different providers, same country)
> - under both Linux, Windows 2000 and Windows XP
> - with different browsers (Firefox 1.0, MSIE 6,
>Mozilla (old) and Lynx)
>
>I just now retried it from home... and I think I
>know where your problem lies...
>From my current PC, when I use MSIE I now can see
>something.
>HOWEVER, when I use any other browser I can't see
>your website.
>
>I'd say you (or the developers of this site) do have
>a problem with recognised standard and very common
>browsers.
Where exactly is the problem? It seems to work for me (Mozilla 1.7.3/Linux).
6 Feb
6 Feb
8:01 p.m.
New subject: Fwd: RE: Problèmes - http://www.utopolis.lu/
On Fri, 2005-02-04 at 17:02, Patrick Useldinger wrote:
Where exactly is the problem? It seems to work for me
(Mozilla 1.7.3/Linux).
The problem was clearly described in my original mail...
When connecting to "http://www.utopolis.lu/"
>> - on four different computers
>> - at three different locations (different cities,
>>different providers, same country)
>> - under both Linux, Windows 2000 and Windows XP
>> - with different browsers (Firefox 1.0, MSIE 6,
>>Mozilla (old) and Lynx)
I got a page with the following message :
>> "The site has been stopped because of an
error
>> in the application!
>> We apologize for the inconvenience. Please
>> contact support(a)bisnet.be so that we can solve this
>> issue immediately. Thank you."
Considering I had the same message in different places, computers,
systems and providers (including at $ORKPLACE) and that I had it for
over three days, I'd suppose the problem isn't "mine" or "my
setup"...
In the meantime, I've found that __on my PC__ I can get the utopolis
website using MSIE on Win2k, but not with Firefox/Win2k...
I might think about making a screen copy of that message.
My suspicions run from "no support for Firefox" to "some issue with some
settings relative to security/privacy/cookies and such" i.e. the F**g
site tries to do something forbidden and instead of letting the user
know, decides to hang itself and let the user believe that something is
wrong "with him"...
Serge
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8:20 p.m.
Serge Marelli wrote:
When connecting to "http://www.utopolis.lu/"
I got a page with the following message :
>>>"The site has been stopped because of an error
>>>in the application!
>>>We apologize for the inconvenience. Please
>>>contact support(a)bisnet.be so that we can solve this
>>>issue immediately. Thank you."
Again, it works perfectly for me (Slackware 10.0, Mozilla 1.7.3) - I
visit the site evey now and then and apart from an earlier issue with
the presentation which has been solved since, no problem.
My suspicions run from "no support for
Firefox" to "some issue with some
settings relative to security/privacy/cookies and such" i.e. the F**g
site tries to do something forbidden and instead of letting the user
know, decides to hang itself and let the user believe that something is
wrong "with him"...
Just to make sure, I just tried on my other machine (SuSE 9.2, Firefox
1.0PR), and no issue there either, even with disallowed cookies
Any other special settings that you might have?
-pu
10 Feb
10 Feb
11:13 a.m.
New subject: Fwd: RE: Problèmes - http://www.utopolis.lu/
On Sun, 2005-02-06 at 21:20, Patrick Useldinger wrote:
None.
Considering I have the same problem at home and at work and that I don't
control the environment at work, I'd say the problem lies somewhere
else.
I've found that when I'm local admin (at home) I can see the site with
Firefox, but not when I'm a lambda user... this gives some info as to
the source of the problem.
Serge
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Serge Marelli wrote:
Yes, so? It also works perfectly when I'm using MSIE, which doesn't help
fixing the problem. In general, when someone says he has a problem,
telling him you don't doesn't help much.
The mail I sent to the list wasn't to get help from the list (this is
lilux-info, not help) but to let people know how uncooperative the
person hosting the website was and how it doesn't seem to work well with
Firefox.
In the meantime, one of the Utopolis people contacted me and we're
trying to find the problem.
When connecting to
"http://www.utopolis.lu/"
I got a page with the following message :
>>>"The site has been stopped because of an error
>>>in the application!
>>>We apologize for the inconvenience. Please
>>>contact support(a)bisnet.be so that we can solve this
>>>issue immediately. Thank you."
Again, it works perfectly for me (Slackware 10.0, Mozilla 1.7.3) - I
visit the site evey now and then and apart from an earlier issue with
the presentation which has been solved since, no problem. My suspicions
run from "no support for Firefox" to "some issue with some
settings relative to security/privacy/cookies and such" i.e. the F**g
site tries to do something forbidden and instead of letting the user
know, decides to hang itself and let the user believe that something is
wrong "with him"...
Just to make sure, I just tried on my other machine (SuSE 9.2, Firefox
1.0PR), and no issue there either, even with disallowed cookies
Any other special settings that you might have?
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